Too much is being made over the definition of sufficiency. The king has always promoted the interchangeable ideas of sufficency, moderation, adequacy, appropriateness, to everything: profits, consumption, democracy, dictatorship, change, law, punishment, eating, playing, watching tv, dog breeding, whatever. This is his way of translating Buddhist non-desire into modern life.
The only real issue is, who is doing the interpreting of sufficiency/moderation in each field and how are they using it, and to what ends. Surely the Surayuth junta is interpreting it not in the economy but in “democracy”.
Pardon if I am still bewildered but Tosakan you sounded more pissed at Thailand’s messy political aftermath, a legacy of Thaksin, rather than a ridiculous claim of Thai fascism.
– The Southern conflagration is admittedly out-of-control with no solution in sight because of Thaksin’s mismanagement, but where is fascism?
– The attacks against the news media (yesterday) and also during the anti-Thaksin protests (Nation and Manager) were work of thugs, and, again the Thaksin elements come to mind, but where is fascism? (thuggery during Thaksin’s rule – did that qualify as fascism?)
– I am not familiar with attacks on NGOs and disappearances of activist-monks and thus cannot comment
– The terrorism in Bangkok I presume you refer to the NYE bomb attack and again I suspect the culprits were Thaksinists but fascism?
– The junta tried to persuade Thai media cooperation but was ignored . . again fascism?
– Infiltration of political groups may or not be your imagination, who knows? but fascism?
– military owned tvs/radios (every single station tosakan?)
But on the people ‘forced’ to wear yellow is all figment of your imagination Tosakan! Thai people just love their King and THAT knowledge eats like acid against Thaksin’s (and Tosakan’s too perhaps) innards.
You wroter: “the abrogation of electoral rights seems to have had limited impact on academic blood pressure.”
I don’t think this should be surprising nor offensive: it is a recognition that, far from being out of the ordinary, the most recent coup was one of many that make up the pattern in Thai politics and was not substantially different from previous ones in motivation and intent.
If people at a conference on the Mekong do not treat it as an extraordinary event changing the pattern of life in Thailand, that is perhaps because it is not an extraordinary change.
I would go further to argue that, even when not holding power directly, the Thai military has a dominant role in Mekong-related policies, a role far more impactful that popular movements.
If that is true, then, what has changed? What need one talk about? Is the Thai policy environment not consistent?
The point is that nothing fits, simply because this entirely bizarre “discussion” about Hitler and fascism doesn’t connect to historical events, structures, and processes in far-away countries such as Germany or Italy. Rather “Hitler” and “fascism” have become what Kasian once called, with respect to “democracy”, “freefloating signifyiers.” In other words, they are used as cultural symbols. While “democracy” stands for eternally good politics, “Hitler/fascism” stand for eternally bad politics. So, if somebody wants to denote the good, it is “democracy”, if the bad, then its “Hitler/fascism.” This has nothing to do with the historial sources of these terms, but everything with the self-referential processing of meaning of those Thais who want to advance their agendas in the Thai socio-political context.
In this context, it is noteworthy, that “Hitler”, for many Thais, has a positive connotation, namely decisive and daring leadership — quasi a better version of Sarit. Similarly, “democracy” has also a negative connotation, namely as “western”, and “un-Thai.”
I guess what is going on in the South is just a figment of my imagination.
I guess the mass killings in the South are in my imagination.
The attacks against the news media, like the one yesterday, is in my imagination.
The constant harassment , disappearance, and murdering of NGO workers, monks, and other social activists is in my imagination.
The terrorism in Bangkok is my imagination.
The censorship of the news media and the internet is my imagination.
The infiltration of political groups must be my imagination.
Television and radio is owned and controlled by the military
Jeru-Yes, people are forced to conform to wearing yellow shirts and forced to partake in ceremonies of allegiance, in both the public and private sectors.
Tosakan you lare osing your credibility with this nonsense that Thailand is or was fascist. Read your own definition man!
” . . .pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.”
Where is the redemptive violence Tosakan?
Where is the ‘internal cleansing’?
Where is the ‘external expansion’?
And to claim that Thailand’s yellow shirt are fascists? Those yellow shirts are Bangkok’s educated, uneducated, middle-class, poor, rich, military, police, hawkers, teachers, students . . they are nearly every Thai Tosakan. Has anyone of these yellow shirts pounded on your door in the middle of the night to coerce you to ‘conform’ or be ‘cleansed’?
No wonder nganadaleeg doubts you are even Thai Tosakan.
Given all these additional explanations, “clarifications”, and extensions, I wonder whether “sufficiency economy” really has a hard core. Or is it more like a set of hyped-up common-sensical platitudes? Or can everybody come up with his or her own ideas — as long as they are different from Thaksinomics, and normal economic textbooks? Maybe, we should ask our resident royalist expert, Chris Baker?
Here are some definitions of fascism and Thailand seems to fit, doesn’t it?
* “Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.”[4]
Paxton further defines fascism’s essence as:
* “1. a sense of overwhelming crisis beyond reach of traditional solutions; 2. belief one’s group is the victim, justifying any action without legal or moral limits; 3. need for authority by a natural leader above the law, relying on the superiority of his instincts; 4. right of the chosen people to dominate others without legal or moral restraint; 5. fear of foreign `contamination.”
What arguments are there to be refuted? I haven’t seen any. What facts? Haven’t seen them either. Plenty of evidence (both in theorry and empiry) — where? Thailand a fascist state? I have been here for quite some time — did I miss something? In fact, I foreign friend of mine, who had lived here for about five years, found that Thailand resembled a socialist country. Well, I would rather not go for this either, although Thailand is strongly collectivist in many respects.
Tosakan – Your not too bad at throwing insults yourself.
I’m guessing that you are not Thai, and I take back the following comments if you are indeed Thai.
Post 25:
You said:
“……Let us worship the villagers and their crappy OTOP products.”
What’s wrong with Thai village products?
I am very satisfied with the one OTOP product that I have, as in my opinion it is far superior to any alternative products (which only seem to be produced in China).
Post 29:
You said:
“Thailand is not a fascist state; it is a quasi fascist state.
And the reason why it gets away with its fascist status is something I don’t understand.
I think Thailand deserves to be treated like a pariah state like Burma, but too many Western diplomats don’t give a shit.”
Which Thai are the fascists?
The buddhists or the muslims, sikhs or hindus?
The Central, Northern or Southern thais, or the Chinese, Mon, Kymer or Malay?
Why is it up to the Western diplomats to treat it like a pariah state? Who has Thailand invaded lately?
The reason it is not treated like a pariah state is because it is not one – anyone who has been there would know that.
Post 32:
You said:
“I think Thailand has all the “potential” in the world to be a great country, but it is sub par to mediocre in every way like you said.”
Can you please provide examples of a great country?
You said:
“I always thought an interesting experiment would be to give one Thai province to the Americans, one to the Europeans, and another province to the Japanese. They can manage these provinces any way they see fit. There would be no political interference from the Thais whatsoever. Give them five years.
Then let Thais vote on it. If the foreigners did a horrible job, then they would have to restore the province as it was before or pay a penalty. But if they did an excellent job, they could sort out a system of paying back the foreigners or continue to contract out its managements, but introduce an element of self-government as well.”
Have you ever wondered such a thing about any other countries, including your own country?
Maybe I’m a bit sensitive, but I also find the tone of your Jump the Shark blog insulting.
Maybe I don’t watch enough US television shows.
I look at the situation as whole and from a historical context.
And you have to realize that fascism doesn’t have to be only about Italians or Germans and their experiences
Thailand is its own country and what happens here doesn’t mean the exact thing happened in Italy or Germany in the early 20 th century. Political theory is not a Hollywood movie.
So, with that being said, I don’t think the Thai Gestapo will start rounding up state enemies and putting them in concentration camps.
But there are things you have pay attention to:
Economic laws
Propaganda
Visa laws
Resident alien laws
Property laws
Form of government
Civil lliberties
You have to pay attention notions of Thai Exceptionalism that are expressed at every level of Thai society.
You have to pay attention to the nationalist media.
You have to pay attention when elites talk about Thai culture and the construction of Thai culture, the one that serves a nationalist political ideology.
You have to pay attention to Thailand’s economic relationship with neighboring countries.
You have to pay attention to the “blame the other” philosophy that pervades in Thai society.
You have to pay attention to all the rhetoric concerning free trade agreements and the current spat between Thailand and Singapore.
What images are conjured up? What is the propaganda? Look at the movie, King Naresuan, for example. That is fascist propaganda.
Thailand also has a long history of using nationalist gangs and thugs to silence opponents.
Look what happened to the Daily News yesterday?
Look at the thuggery on the football pitch?
Look at the thuggery between vocational schools.
During the 70’s, you had murderous gangs like the Red Gaur, Nawaphon, and Village Scouts going after students?
Look at the Civil War in the South.
Look at the terrorism.
Look at how the Thai media practices self-censorship
Look at how the Thai populace embraces a military dictatorship.
Look at how Thais gather together in their yellow shirted masses for their cults of personality, but have no respect for liberal institutions
There’s a culture of impunity bestowed upon the political elite that needs to be removed from the Thai mind set. Whereas constitutional checks & balances are worthy causes and should be strongly included in the constitutional rewrite, it becomes meaningless when there is no bite to the bark.
We have to follow the example of South Korea in their rigid political discipline that there will be no one above the constitution, and, that everyone will be under the rule of law. South Korea jailed two corrupt ex-Presidents Chun and Roh vividly giving substance and meaning to constitutional rule of law.
Thaksin cannot be allowed to go scot-free. Thaksin was blatantly corrupt, blatantly conflicted, blatantly criminally tax evasive, and, blatantly criminally violated the rule of law when he carried out the slaughter of thousands during that senseless anti-drugs war of Y2003. Unless Thaksin is judicially brought to account for all above criminal violations of constitutional rule of law, any new constitution written would be looked upon dubiously as another fruitless exercise because ‘culture of impunity’ mocks Thailand’s old or constitutions still, in the person of scot-free Thaksin Shinawatra.
Thailand and fascists linked? Somehow I am lost in that argument because my Thai history is terrible.
But if indeed those past leaders Tosakan were fascistic, it did not appear to have made much impression for long. Calling Chinese the Jews of Asia must have ‘threatening’ during the mid-1900’s, during the rise of fascism in Europe. But if there is country in Asia that had successfully assimilated (embraced is more like it) the Chinese, it must be Thailand.
Tosakan are you telling us that we should be wary of black shirted fascists in today’s Thailand?
Instead of throwing insults, why don’t you actually refute what has been written with an intelligent response?
No generalizations have been made, except by you and your uncalled for snide remark.
If you have a counter-argument, make it.
By the way, there is plenty of evidence, none coming from rednecks, that link Thailand with fascism, empirically and theoretically. Your insults don’t change these facts.
And King Vajirayudh and Plaek Pibulsongkran called the Chinese “The Jews of Asia”
Why is there a such limited paradigm when it comes to discussing development issues, especially in Thailand?
Why is there no “criticism” in Thailand?
Why are the political parameters of development talk decided by an out of touch elite that has no commitment to democracy and stifled by political taboo and/or forced to adopt Royalist or feudal socialist trends in its research?
Why do Western scholars kow tow to the whims of Thais and sacrifice their academic integrity in order to get along?
In terms of research, academic freedom and a commitment to liberal values, Thailand seems like a backwater. I can see how the Thais tolerate this, because it protects them professionally and politically, but Western/other Asian academics have no reasonable excuse to cave to the bullshit
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Surayud on the ‘philosophy of life’
Too much is being made over the definition of sufficiency. The king has always promoted the interchangeable ideas of sufficency, moderation, adequacy, appropriateness, to everything: profits, consumption, democracy, dictatorship, change, law, punishment, eating, playing, watching tv, dog breeding, whatever. This is his way of translating Buddhist non-desire into modern life.
The only real issue is, who is doing the interpreting of sufficiency/moderation in each field and how are they using it, and to what ends. Surely the Surayuth junta is interpreting it not in the economy but in “democracy”.
Diplomatic exchange carried by The Nation
Pardon if I am still bewildered but Tosakan you sounded more pissed at Thailand’s messy political aftermath, a legacy of Thaksin, rather than a ridiculous claim of Thai fascism.
– The Southern conflagration is admittedly out-of-control with no solution in sight because of Thaksin’s mismanagement, but where is fascism?
– The attacks against the news media (yesterday) and also during the anti-Thaksin protests (Nation and Manager) were work of thugs, and, again the Thaksin elements come to mind, but where is fascism? (thuggery during Thaksin’s rule – did that qualify as fascism?)
– I am not familiar with attacks on NGOs and disappearances of activist-monks and thus cannot comment
– The terrorism in Bangkok I presume you refer to the NYE bomb attack and again I suspect the culprits were Thaksinists but fascism?
– The junta tried to persuade Thai media cooperation but was ignored . . again fascism?
– Infiltration of political groups may or not be your imagination, who knows? but fascism?
– military owned tvs/radios (every single station tosakan?)
But on the people ‘forced’ to wear yellow is all figment of your imagination Tosakan! Thai people just love their King and THAT knowledge eats like acid against Thaksin’s (and Tosakan’s too perhaps) innards.
Don’t mention the coup!
You wroter: “the abrogation of electoral rights seems to have had limited impact on academic blood pressure.”
I don’t think this should be surprising nor offensive: it is a recognition that, far from being out of the ordinary, the most recent coup was one of many that make up the pattern in Thai politics and was not substantially different from previous ones in motivation and intent.
If people at a conference on the Mekong do not treat it as an extraordinary event changing the pattern of life in Thailand, that is perhaps because it is not an extraordinary change.
I would go further to argue that, even when not holding power directly, the Thai military has a dominant role in Mekong-related policies, a role far more impactful that popular movements.
If that is true, then, what has changed? What need one talk about? Is the Thai policy environment not consistent?
Diplomatic exchange carried by The Nation
The point is that nothing fits, simply because this entirely bizarre “discussion” about Hitler and fascism doesn’t connect to historical events, structures, and processes in far-away countries such as Germany or Italy. Rather “Hitler” and “fascism” have become what Kasian once called, with respect to “democracy”, “freefloating signifyiers.” In other words, they are used as cultural symbols. While “democracy” stands for eternally good politics, “Hitler/fascism” stand for eternally bad politics. So, if somebody wants to denote the good, it is “democracy”, if the bad, then its “Hitler/fascism.” This has nothing to do with the historial sources of these terms, but everything with the self-referential processing of meaning of those Thais who want to advance their agendas in the Thai socio-political context.
In this context, it is noteworthy, that “Hitler”, for many Thais, has a positive connotation, namely decisive and daring leadership — quasi a better version of Sarit. Similarly, “democracy” has also a negative connotation, namely as “western”, and “un-Thai.”
Diplomatic exchange carried by The Nation
Jeru-
I guess what is going on in the South is just a figment of my imagination.
I guess the mass killings in the South are in my imagination.
The attacks against the news media, like the one yesterday, is in my imagination.
The constant harassment , disappearance, and murdering of NGO workers, monks, and other social activists is in my imagination.
The terrorism in Bangkok is my imagination.
The censorship of the news media and the internet is my imagination.
The infiltration of political groups must be my imagination.
Television and radio is owned and controlled by the military
Jeru-Yes, people are forced to conform to wearing yellow shirts and forced to partake in ceremonies of allegiance, in both the public and private sectors.
Diplomatic exchange carried by The Nation
OK, so what are your reasons?
If it doesn’t fit, then what fits?
Diplomatic exchange carried by The Nation
Tosakan you lare osing your credibility with this nonsense that Thailand is or was fascist. Read your own definition man!
” . . .pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.”
Where is the redemptive violence Tosakan?
Where is the ‘internal cleansing’?
Where is the ‘external expansion’?
And to claim that Thailand’s yellow shirt are fascists? Those yellow shirts are Bangkok’s educated, uneducated, middle-class, poor, rich, military, police, hawkers, teachers, students . . they are nearly every Thai Tosakan. Has anyone of these yellow shirts pounded on your door in the middle of the night to coerce you to ‘conform’ or be ‘cleansed’?
No wonder nganadaleeg doubts you are even Thai Tosakan.
Diplomatic exchange carried by The Nation
No, doesn’t seem to fit.
Surayud on the ‘philosophy of life’
Given all these additional explanations, “clarifications”, and extensions, I wonder whether “sufficiency economy” really has a hard core. Or is it more like a set of hyped-up common-sensical platitudes? Or can everybody come up with his or her own ideas — as long as they are different from Thaksinomics, and normal economic textbooks? Maybe, we should ask our resident royalist expert, Chris Baker?
Diplomatic exchange carried by The Nation
Here are some definitions of fascism and Thailand seems to fit, doesn’t it?
* “Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.”[4]
Paxton further defines fascism’s essence as:
* “1. a sense of overwhelming crisis beyond reach of traditional solutions; 2. belief one’s group is the victim, justifying any action without legal or moral limits; 3. need for authority by a natural leader above the law, relying on the superiority of his instincts; 4. right of the chosen people to dominate others without legal or moral restraint; 5. fear of foreign `contamination.”
General Surayud pitches 2007 as “year of great reforms”
[…] his ongoing┬ efforts to clarify “sufficiency economy“, junta-installed Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont has […]
Diplomatic exchange carried by The Nation
What arguments are there to be refuted? I haven’t seen any. What facts? Haven’t seen them either. Plenty of evidence (both in theorry and empiry) — where? Thailand a fascist state? I have been here for quite some time — did I miss something? In fact, I foreign friend of mine, who had lived here for about five years, found that Thailand resembled a socialist country. Well, I would rather not go for this either, although Thailand is strongly collectivist in many respects.
Diplomatic exchange carried by The Nation
Tosakan – Your not too bad at throwing insults yourself.
I’m guessing that you are not Thai, and I take back the following comments if you are indeed Thai.
Post 25:
You said:
“……Let us worship the villagers and their crappy OTOP products.”
What’s wrong with Thai village products?
I am very satisfied with the one OTOP product that I have, as in my opinion it is far superior to any alternative products (which only seem to be produced in China).
Post 29:
You said:
“Thailand is not a fascist state; it is a quasi fascist state.
And the reason why it gets away with its fascist status is something I don’t understand.
I think Thailand deserves to be treated like a pariah state like Burma, but too many Western diplomats don’t give a shit.”
Which Thai are the fascists?
The buddhists or the muslims, sikhs or hindus?
The Central, Northern or Southern thais, or the Chinese, Mon, Kymer or Malay?
Why is it up to the Western diplomats to treat it like a pariah state? Who has Thailand invaded lately?
The reason it is not treated like a pariah state is because it is not one – anyone who has been there would know that.
Post 32:
You said:
“I think Thailand has all the “potential” in the world to be a great country, but it is sub par to mediocre in every way like you said.”
Can you please provide examples of a great country?
You said:
“I always thought an interesting experiment would be to give one Thai province to the Americans, one to the Europeans, and another province to the Japanese. They can manage these provinces any way they see fit. There would be no political interference from the Thais whatsoever. Give them five years.
Then let Thais vote on it. If the foreigners did a horrible job, then they would have to restore the province as it was before or pay a penalty. But if they did an excellent job, they could sort out a system of paying back the foreigners or continue to contract out its managements, but introduce an element of self-government as well.”
Have you ever wondered such a thing about any other countries, including your own country?
Maybe I’m a bit sensitive, but I also find the tone of your Jump the Shark blog insulting.
Maybe I don’t watch enough US television shows.
Diplomatic exchange carried by The Nation
Jeru-
More like yellow shirted fascists.
The simple answer to your question is yes.
You might ask, how do I know this?
I look at the situation as whole and from a historical context.
And you have to realize that fascism doesn’t have to be only about Italians or Germans and their experiences
Thailand is its own country and what happens here doesn’t mean the exact thing happened in Italy or Germany in the early 20 th century. Political theory is not a Hollywood movie.
So, with that being said, I don’t think the Thai Gestapo will start rounding up state enemies and putting them in concentration camps.
But there are things you have pay attention to:
Economic laws
Propaganda
Visa laws
Resident alien laws
Property laws
Form of government
Civil lliberties
You have to pay attention notions of Thai Exceptionalism that are expressed at every level of Thai society.
You have to pay attention to the nationalist media.
You have to pay attention when elites talk about Thai culture and the construction of Thai culture, the one that serves a nationalist political ideology.
You have to pay attention to Thailand’s economic relationship with neighboring countries.
You have to pay attention to the “blame the other” philosophy that pervades in Thai society.
You have to pay attention to all the rhetoric concerning free trade agreements and the current spat between Thailand and Singapore.
What images are conjured up? What is the propaganda? Look at the movie, King Naresuan, for example. That is fascist propaganda.
Thailand also has a long history of using nationalist gangs and thugs to silence opponents.
Look what happened to the Daily News yesterday?
Look at the thuggery on the football pitch?
Look at the thuggery between vocational schools.
During the 70’s, you had murderous gangs like the Red Gaur, Nawaphon, and Village Scouts going after students?
Look at the Civil War in the South.
Look at the terrorism.
Look at how the Thai media practices self-censorship
Look at how the Thai populace embraces a military dictatorship.
Look at how Thais gather together in their yellow shirted masses for their cults of personality, but have no respect for liberal institutions
I could go on and on.
Diplomatic exchange carried by The Nation
There’s a culture of impunity bestowed upon the political elite that needs to be removed from the Thai mind set. Whereas constitutional checks & balances are worthy causes and should be strongly included in the constitutional rewrite, it becomes meaningless when there is no bite to the bark.
We have to follow the example of South Korea in their rigid political discipline that there will be no one above the constitution, and, that everyone will be under the rule of law. South Korea jailed two corrupt ex-Presidents Chun and Roh vividly giving substance and meaning to constitutional rule of law.
Thaksin cannot be allowed to go scot-free. Thaksin was blatantly corrupt, blatantly conflicted, blatantly criminally tax evasive, and, blatantly criminally violated the rule of law when he carried out the slaughter of thousands during that senseless anti-drugs war of Y2003. Unless Thaksin is judicially brought to account for all above criminal violations of constitutional rule of law, any new constitution written would be looked upon dubiously as another fruitless exercise because ‘culture of impunity’ mocks Thailand’s old or constitutions still, in the person of scot-free Thaksin Shinawatra.
Diplomatic exchange carried by The Nation
Thailand and fascists linked? Somehow I am lost in that argument because my Thai history is terrible.
But if indeed those past leaders Tosakan were fascistic, it did not appear to have made much impression for long. Calling Chinese the Jews of Asia must have ‘threatening’ during the mid-1900’s, during the rise of fascism in Europe. But if there is country in Asia that had successfully assimilated (embraced is more like it) the Chinese, it must be Thailand.
Tosakan are you telling us that we should be wary of black shirted fascists in today’s Thailand?
Diplomatic exchange carried by The Nation
nganadeeleg-
Instead of throwing insults, why don’t you actually refute what has been written with an intelligent response?
No generalizations have been made, except by you and your uncalled for snide remark.
If you have a counter-argument, make it.
By the way, there is plenty of evidence, none coming from rednecks, that link Thailand with fascism, empirically and theoretically. Your insults don’t change these facts.
And King Vajirayudh and Plaek Pibulsongkran called the Chinese “The Jews of Asia”
Waiting for your intelligent response. Thank you.
Don’t mention the coup!
Andrew-
I think this is an important blog post.
Why is there a such limited paradigm when it comes to discussing development issues, especially in Thailand?
Why is there no “criticism” in Thailand?
Why are the political parameters of development talk decided by an out of touch elite that has no commitment to democracy and stifled by political taboo and/or forced to adopt Royalist or feudal socialist trends in its research?
Why do Western scholars kow tow to the whims of Thais and sacrifice their academic integrity in order to get along?
In terms of research, academic freedom and a commitment to liberal values, Thailand seems like a backwater. I can see how the Thais tolerate this, because it protects them professionally and politically, but Western/other Asian academics have no reasonable excuse to cave to the bullshit
Don’t mention the coup!
Or i would add to Taxi Driver, an orange wrist band from Siam Commercial Bank….