To author: you are incorrect about the king Rama 9 killed his brother. Please don’t write false information to the public. His brother, king Rama 8 was killed by some greedy politicians. There’s no dark secret from the king’s mother. Only a frightening Mom trying to protect another son from being killed from the same group of traitors. The crown prince is a different story, cannot be compared to King Rama 9.
Dear Bridget,
You are absolutely right, but at this moment the people are extremely angry and helpless.
Things become so expensive…. and the money has little to spend. Life is getting tougher day by day. We will not see lights in the tunnel so soon.
We need help from every where to get us onto the right path again.
The long reign of a popular king in Thailand has left the people slavish and authoritarian. I am optimistic. A string of unpopular kings in the 18th and early 19th centuries set Britain on the road to liberal democracy. Vajiralongkorn can do it for Thailand in a few years.
Dao Din declaration on the arrest of Jatupat Boonpattararaksa
Jarupat (Pai) Boonpattararaksa is a member of Dao Din and a person who habitually uses Facebook in accessing various kinds of information and news. He is no different than the rest of us who can access social media more easily than 7-Eleven. He is one of thousands of people who shared a news story published BBC-Thai, but in his case a warrant for his arrest under Article 112 was issued for sharing this information. The person who has brought the case is a soldier. At this time, the police have taken Jatupat to the Khon Kaen police station to proceed with the case.
These actions by the authorities are a grave violation of and are in conflict with the principles of human rights and freedom of expression in line with democracy. These actions are a clear instance of selective treatment by the authorities and indicate the lack of respect for rights and freedom in Thai society, as no one should be arrested for simply posting on Facebook. We are simply students, and the children and grandchildren of ordinary, common people who have become victims of the powerful who have fixed upon and attack Dao Din.
Therefore, we call for the unconditional and immediate release of our brother and member of Dao Din, and call for the criminal charge for merely sharing news on Facebook to be dropped.
A commonly used approach to refuting an argument, especially where the issue at hand is contentious and one party to the argument is antagonistic to the other, is to make an attack ad hominem. This line of dispute is described as follows:
You attack your opponent’s character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument.
Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody, or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes as a way to discredit their argument. The result of an ad hom attack can be to undermine someone’s case without actually having to engage with it.
An excellent article I must say and I beg to differ from a few of you who are downright mean spirited and distasteful in your comments. I have tremendously benefitted from Andrew M. Marshall’s up-to-date, insightful, and knowledgeable articles from his sources who do have behind the scenes information, whereby revealing a bit of the truth and giving us a glimpse of what’s going on despite the veil and threat of Article 112. I was born and raised in Bangkok and bought into the lies that I read and saw on TV, thanks to the high powered palace PR machine that spouted out palace news daily via the evening news. I’m not living in thailand now but have visited friends every few years and have kept up with what’s going on. I’m grateful that someone like Andrew M. Marshall came to a personal conviction to expose the “whole truth” and even at the expense of jeopardizing his career, to shed light on the truth of the Thai royal family. We all have benefitted tremendously in many ways, from his reporting. If I truly believed that he was making things up, or had a hidden agenda, I would not hesitate to say so. Each one of us has a choice, a decision, to make. You can either choose to agree with him or disagree. But you don’t have to use “lowball” tactics to discredit him or demean him or his reporting. I for one, will continue to be kept abreast of what’s going on in Thailand, from him, as well as from other first hand sources, esp. since I don’t live there anymore.
Lastly, thanks for an excellent article and clearing the air on the machinations of the thai succession story as they are being played out in real time.
Now begins the demise, or the start of the end of the Chakri Dynasty. This new king will show his “true colors” in due time. It is just a matter of time before the millions of Thais realize the lies they have been fed by the high powered and regimentally controlled palace PR machine backed by the corrupt military.
The genie is out of the bottle and no matter how much they try to suppress the truth, and inspite the threat of Article 112, this new king, raised a spoiled brat, will continue to indulge himself and his whims, without any restraint. The worse is yet to come, as it only will go from bad to worse.
I do hope that this sad chapter in Thailand’s history will quickly come to a close and Thailand can start again with a clean slate. But I’m realistic to know that it will not be the case. Thailand’s worse days are still ahead and like the old saying goes, “you ain’t seen nothing yet.”
Now that the CP has officially been proclaimed the new king, it is just a matter of time before his character flaws, shortcomings, perverted habits, and past coverups will come to light. He’s 64 now and set in his ways, and all mature Thais know that a leopard cannot change his spots or a tiger his stripes. He has lived a shameful life of gross immorality, luxury, and getting and doing whatever he wants, without any restraints and self control. It is just a matter of time before his ‘true colors” are shown for what he truly is. And sad to say, it will be extremely ugly for all to see, despite the heavy handed approach and repression by this illegitimate military junta and the high powered palace PR machine. Now begins the start of the end of the Chakri dynasty. As the old saying goes, “you aint seen nothing yet.”
Unless one was there at the time, it is difficult to be sure what the atmosphere of mid-September 1965 in Jakarta was like.
However, reading Anderson’s and McVey’s ‘Cornell Paper’, which was circulated in January 1966 to a select group of readers but not published for another five years, certainly helps. There were probably a lot of rumours of Sukarno’s illness and debate about how long he would live.
People no doubt speculated on the longstanding rivalry between the army and the PKI. Which side would come out on top, presumably after the president’s death? Rex Mortimer, then an official of the Communist Party of Australia and later an Indonesianist academic, had visited Indonesia in 1964 at the PKI’s invitation. He once told me that he had found his hosts terrified of the army. Was this still the case in 1965?
The Indonesian economy was in a state of crisis. As McVey wrote in another publication, PKI chairman Aidit had called on Indonesians to eat rats if no other food was available.
People must also have been wondering how Konfrontasi would turn out. How many of them were by now tired of following Sukarno’s injunction to ‘vivere pericoloso’ (‘live dangerously’), in line with one of his Independence Day speeches announcing the start of Tahun Vivere Pericoloso.
If you notice, the ascension of the new king was back dated so that it takes effect from the day King Phumiphon passed away. This presumably took care of the issue of lack of provision allowing lapses between kings, at least legally.
A good analysis. As far as it goes. The problem with reading the tea leaves in Bangkok, as Kevin Hewison is very aware, there are, to borrow a concept that’s been around for decades, too many known unknowns and unknown unknowns. All will be known soon enough but for now, we await the arrival of the first drops of blood on gorgeous teak floors.
Hugh Cameron – one of the more interesting developments is the pick up in German investment in Thailand. Indeed it’s about the ONLY pick up. Just about all else has come to a grinding halt, as FDI investors watch and wait.
One of the more interesting developments is the proposal to move the Thai capital to Munich to keep onside with the new monarch. Although Prayut will have to report daily via Skype, he ( Prayut) does not speak a word of German which I see as a potential problem in the days ahead.
possibly the first to be charged with LM for Rama X
The Thai police have arrested a leading member of an anti-junta activist group for sharing the biography of the new King of Thailand published by the BBC Thai.
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Thailand’s long succession
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A crown prince and German affairs
To author: you are incorrect about the king Rama 9 killed his brother. Please don’t write false information to the public. His brother, king Rama 8 was killed by some greedy politicians. There’s no dark secret from the king’s mother. Only a frightening Mom trying to protect another son from being killed from the same group of traitors. The crown prince is a different story, cannot be compared to King Rama 9.
Is this a fake news site?
Henry VIII of Thailand
If a person enjoys sychophancy Thailand is heaven on earth
Najib’s fear campaign
Dear Bridget,
You are absolutely right, but at this moment the people are extremely angry and helpless.
Things become so expensive…. and the money has little to spend. Life is getting tougher day by day. We will not see lights in the tunnel so soon.
We need help from every where to get us onto the right path again.
Henry VIII of Thailand
The long reign of a popular king in Thailand has left the people slavish and authoritarian. I am optimistic. A string of unpopular kings in the 18th and early 19th centuries set Britain on the road to liberal democracy. Vajiralongkorn can do it for Thailand in a few years.
Henry VIII of Thailand
Dao Din declaration on the arrest of Jatupat Boonpattararaksa
Jarupat (Pai) Boonpattararaksa is a member of Dao Din and a person who habitually uses Facebook in accessing various kinds of information and news. He is no different than the rest of us who can access social media more easily than 7-Eleven. He is one of thousands of people who shared a news story published BBC-Thai, but in his case a warrant for his arrest under Article 112 was issued for sharing this information. The person who has brought the case is a soldier. At this time, the police have taken Jatupat to the Khon Kaen police station to proceed with the case.
These actions by the authorities are a grave violation of and are in conflict with the principles of human rights and freedom of expression in line with democracy. These actions are a clear instance of selective treatment by the authorities and indicate the lack of respect for rights and freedom in Thai society, as no one should be arrested for simply posting on Facebook. We are simply students, and the children and grandchildren of ordinary, common people who have become victims of the powerful who have fixed upon and attack Dao Din.
Therefore, we call for the unconditional and immediate release of our brother and member of Dao Din, and call for the criminal charge for merely sharing news on Facebook to be dropped.
http://www.prachatai.com/english/node/6757
What next for the theatrics of Thailand?
A commonly used approach to refuting an argument, especially where the issue at hand is contentious and one party to the argument is antagonistic to the other, is to make an attack ad hominem. This line of dispute is described as follows:
You attack your opponent’s character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument.
Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody, or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes as a way to discredit their argument. The result of an ad hom attack can be to undermine someone’s case without actually having to engage with it.
Enough said, I think.
What next for the theatrics of Thailand?
An excellent article I must say and I beg to differ from a few of you who are downright mean spirited and distasteful in your comments. I have tremendously benefitted from Andrew M. Marshall’s up-to-date, insightful, and knowledgeable articles from his sources who do have behind the scenes information, whereby revealing a bit of the truth and giving us a glimpse of what’s going on despite the veil and threat of Article 112. I was born and raised in Bangkok and bought into the lies that I read and saw on TV, thanks to the high powered palace PR machine that spouted out palace news daily via the evening news. I’m not living in thailand now but have visited friends every few years and have kept up with what’s going on. I’m grateful that someone like Andrew M. Marshall came to a personal conviction to expose the “whole truth” and even at the expense of jeopardizing his career, to shed light on the truth of the Thai royal family. We all have benefitted tremendously in many ways, from his reporting. If I truly believed that he was making things up, or had a hidden agenda, I would not hesitate to say so. Each one of us has a choice, a decision, to make. You can either choose to agree with him or disagree. But you don’t have to use “lowball” tactics to discredit him or demean him or his reporting. I for one, will continue to be kept abreast of what’s going on in Thailand, from him, as well as from other first hand sources, esp. since I don’t live there anymore.
Lastly, thanks for an excellent article and clearing the air on the machinations of the thai succession story as they are being played out in real time.
Henry VIII of Thailand
Now begins the demise, or the start of the end of the Chakri Dynasty. This new king will show his “true colors” in due time. It is just a matter of time before the millions of Thais realize the lies they have been fed by the high powered and regimentally controlled palace PR machine backed by the corrupt military.
The genie is out of the bottle and no matter how much they try to suppress the truth, and inspite the threat of Article 112, this new king, raised a spoiled brat, will continue to indulge himself and his whims, without any restraint. The worse is yet to come, as it only will go from bad to worse.
I do hope that this sad chapter in Thailand’s history will quickly come to a close and Thailand can start again with a clean slate. But I’m realistic to know that it will not be the case. Thailand’s worse days are still ahead and like the old saying goes, “you ain’t seen nothing yet.”
Thailand’s long succession
Now that the CP has officially been proclaimed the new king, it is just a matter of time before his character flaws, shortcomings, perverted habits, and past coverups will come to light. He’s 64 now and set in his ways, and all mature Thais know that a leopard cannot change his spots or a tiger his stripes. He has lived a shameful life of gross immorality, luxury, and getting and doing whatever he wants, without any restraints and self control. It is just a matter of time before his ‘true colors” are shown for what he truly is. And sad to say, it will be extremely ugly for all to see, despite the heavy handed approach and repression by this illegitimate military junta and the high powered palace PR machine. Now begins the start of the end of the Chakri dynasty. As the old saying goes, “you aint seen nothing yet.”
Keep calm, carry on, and drink tea
Unless one was there at the time, it is difficult to be sure what the atmosphere of mid-September 1965 in Jakarta was like.
However, reading Anderson’s and McVey’s ‘Cornell Paper’, which was circulated in January 1966 to a select group of readers but not published for another five years, certainly helps. There were probably a lot of rumours of Sukarno’s illness and debate about how long he would live.
People no doubt speculated on the longstanding rivalry between the army and the PKI. Which side would come out on top, presumably after the president’s death? Rex Mortimer, then an official of the Communist Party of Australia and later an Indonesianist academic, had visited Indonesia in 1964 at the PKI’s invitation. He once told me that he had found his hosts terrified of the army. Was this still the case in 1965?
The Indonesian economy was in a state of crisis. As McVey wrote in another publication, PKI chairman Aidit had called on Indonesians to eat rats if no other food was available.
People must also have been wondering how Konfrontasi would turn out. How many of them were by now tired of following Sukarno’s injunction to ‘vivere pericoloso’ (‘live dangerously’), in line with one of his Independence Day speeches announcing the start of Tahun Vivere Pericoloso.
All of this seems a very long time ago.
What next for the theatrics of Thailand?
If you notice, the ascension of the new king was back dated so that it takes effect from the day King Phumiphon passed away. This presumably took care of the issue of lack of provision allowing lapses between kings, at least legally.
What next for the theatrics of Thailand?
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Thailand’s long succession
A good analysis. As far as it goes. The problem with reading the tea leaves in Bangkok, as Kevin Hewison is very aware, there are, to borrow a concept that’s been around for decades, too many known unknowns and unknown unknowns. All will be known soon enough but for now, we await the arrival of the first drops of blood on gorgeous teak floors.
Henry VIII of Thailand
It would be nice to read an article that tells us something new, rather than repeating what we know already.
Henry VIII of Thailand
Hugh Cameron – one of the more interesting developments is the pick up in German investment in Thailand. Indeed it’s about the ONLY pick up. Just about all else has come to a grinding halt, as FDI investors watch and wait.
Henry VIII of Thailand
thank-you for the smile 🙂
Survey of Thai Internet use and restrictions
An update as to the results / conclusions would not go astray …………..
Henry VIII of Thailand
One of the more interesting developments is the proposal to move the Thai capital to Munich to keep onside with the new monarch. Although Prayut will have to report daily via Skype, he ( Prayut) does not speak a word of German which I see as a potential problem in the days ahead.
Henry VIII of Thailand
possibly the first to be charged with LM for Rama X
The Thai police have arrested a leading member of an anti-junta activist group for sharing the biography of the new King of Thailand published by the BBC Thai.
http://prachatai.org/english/node/6756