Rohingya genocide, Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, Russian invasion of Crimea, President Rousseff’s corruption, popular uprising against Assad…all things that never actually happened.
Good piece. There is a good polsci diss in the political economy of peace processes that seemingly never end. Like Mindanao. MI should be carrying their own water by being more effective in the political arena – on this score they need a nudge. As for Digong, his policy appears to be one of back flipping and pervasive uncertainty. Which probably suits Misuari down to a tee.
South East Asia needs an ” Arab Spring” like it nees the plaque!
In fact SEA would do well to remove all things “Middle eastern” Nothing good has come out so far from the slow creep of Midddle eastern culture into SEA – notable Peninsula malaysia and some parts of Indonesia…
I’d just like to correct one misconception about the “bomb” on the plane planned for Thaksin as reported by the Bangkok Post. At the time I contacted the Bangkok Post and told them that if there had been a bomb (they claimed it was a Eastern type plastic explosive) on the plane it would have done far more damage, not only blowing out the windows of the aircraft, but also the windows at the terminal it was parked at.
I pointed out both my military and civilian qualifications to the Editor at the time and the fact I had used Semtex (C4) on many occasions and that even one slab would have all but destroyed the aircraft.
After sending a reporter to the airport to check their sources and also the damage to the aircraft they belatedly printed a retraction on page 5 the following week that said, that in actual fact it was an air conditioning unit that has overheated which had caused the explosion.
The evidence, Semtex, that they had so vigorously promoted as the source of the explosion, was a quote from a military source over the phone who was, I surmise, just guessing.
The fable has lived on I see and now become fact.
A small correction. His wife has not been a secret for sometime now. She had a prominent place in the funeral motorcade that brought the late kings remains to the grand Palace, she is frequently photographed in close proximity to the new king and he has appointed her to the rank of Lieutenant General in the royal guards and given her his name, all of which has been covered by the Thai media. If you watch the footage of the new Kings assumption of the throne you will note that she was the first person he passed before prostrating himself at the shrine to his parents.
Eye-opener on genocide against my People:
Haikal Mansor
December 9, 2016
I am a Rohingya activist and professional, fluent in Burmese, Rohingya and English languages, living in exile. I made the 2-minutes video-clip with English language subtitles and posted it on YouTube with the purpose of exposing Aung San Suu Kyi’s culpability and complicity in the crime of genocide against my peoples, including babies, children, women, men and elderly people.
Amartya Sen, “The Term ‘slow genocide’ is appropriate because you deny [Rohingya] people health care, nutritional opportunities.”
George Soros, “In Aung Mingalar, I heard the echoes of my childhood. You see, in 1944, as a Jew in Budapest, I too was a Rohingya. Much like the Jewish ghettos set up by Nazis around Eastern Europe during World War II, Aung Mingalar has become the involuntary home to thousands of families who once had access to health care, education and employment. Now, they are forced to remain segregated in a state of abject deprivation. The parallels to the Nazi genocide are alarming.”
Desmond Tutu, “The government of Myanmar has sought to absolve itself of responsibility for the conflict between the Rakhine and the Rohingya, projecting it as sectarian or communal violence. I would be more inclined to heed the warnings of eminent scholars and researchers including Amartya Sen, the Nobel laureate in economics, who say this is a deliberately false narrative to camouflage the slow genocide being committed against the Rohingya people.”
Tomas Ojea Quintana (UN Special Rapporteur on human rights), “The International State Initiative… arrives at a convincing conclusion: that a process of genocide against the Rohingya population is underway in Myanmar.”
“Aung San Suu Kyi’s influence with the international community helped keep Myanmar’s military in check and strengthened her political position. Now she has lost some of her lustre, and her hold on the military is slipping. Her strategy of pragmatic compromise and ignoring the plight of the Rohingya no longer seems tenable,” Motokazu Matsui, 9 December 2016
Your constant insistence on describing and characterizing the Rohingya as liars and as morally corrupt have been (and still is) used as basis for hatred and violence against other minority populations throughout the world, such as Gypsies and Jews. I do not have the confidence in my own ability to convince you out of your own racism.
Ethnic violence and genocide, like any complicated issue, is not a matter of black or white. But you have signalled quite clearly throughout these comments that you are not interested in getting into a nuanced or rational discussion. It is actually quite sad how you keep telling me that I live in a bubble. I am not the one denying that my country has been directly involved in acts of horrific violence and abuse against a minority population.
Even if Tatmadaw forces are not DIRECTLY engaging in murdering or abusing the Rohingya (IF, not EVEN THOUGH), their by and large refusal to intervene and provide protection against occurences of ethnic violence against the Rohingya and their tacit and not-so-tacit support of these actions can be taken as a signal of ongoing genocide. Please, for your own sake, refer to the case of the Armenian genocide, unless I may suspect you are also one of those who also deny that has occured.
Your stubborn refusal and hatred are what is wrong with this world – we as a humanity must learn from our worst mistakes and ensure that they do not happen again.
OMG! I’m so sad and mad that was happening to your family. But, that does not surprise me the way the Thai government has been behaving. I heard they have done similar or worse to many people who dare acting against them.
Do you understand what “evidence” means? It’s more than googling “Rohingya genocide.” Let me tell you. A video of American soldiers shooting journalists is EVIDENCE. An interview with locals in which people say “everybody died” is NONSENSE. That’s especially true when there is A HUGE BENEFIT FOR LYING in terms of aid and political gains. Guess your school doesn’t do a better job than instilling moral superiority.
Your bushing of HR narrative as ‘irrelevant’ shows you have no capacity to understand. Let me tell you why it is relevant. The same narrative, demonising one side and identiying the other as ‘victims’, is unfolding in Rakhine. Believe me, you’ll spend the rest of your life in your little bubble. Humans are more hardwired than they would ever admit. So, good bye. We’ll talk again when you can offer some evidence.
Show me a verifiable photo of soldiers shooting at your Rohingya and then we’ll talk about your evidence. It’s an age of phones and cameras. DON’T give me your pathetic nonsense interviews as evidence. That’s what happened WHEN YOU GIVE PEOPLE aid and asylum without verifying their made-up nonsense. Go inside any mosque, they are INSTRUCTED TO TELL GROSS LIES whenever they meet with any foreigner.
The latest to be detained in this round-up is Hatta Taliwang, a former PAN member of parliament who is aged only 62. Soon we may be reading of suspects being declared who can still run a hundred metres.
Given Jokowi’s reported belief that SBY and Ani backed the November and December demonstrations, will Tito Karnavian have them declared suspects as well? At 69, SBY easily meets the minimum age requirement.
If it is true, as Greg Fealy has just written, that Amien Rais has condemned Ahok as a ‘kafir Chinaman’ (or ‘chink’), at which court will he be put on trial and how long will his sentence for spreading racial and sectarian hatred be? Or would that have an unfortunate impact on PAN’s support for the Jokowi government?
This all looks like the old difference between the contrasting treatment of kakap besar and ikan teri in the field of corruption. Put the powerless on trial and leave the powerful untouched.
How many people could Sri Bintang or Rachmawati get to storm the parliamentary building? By contrast, how many times has the FPI blocked traffic in one part of Jakarta or another since it was set up twenty years ago.
As for retired major-general Kivlan Zein, has he taken part in raids on any sex parties lately? Well, the FPI did with police connivance in Kalibata a couple of weekends ago
I have no idea what this author means by a ‘closer internal security apparatus’. Closer to what? Will Indonesia’s George Smiley, or rather ‘Control’, alias Budi Gunawan, be contributing to that closer internal security apparatus?
Main fallacy of all those “Human Rights” industry largess enjoyers is that, the mostly recognised Burmese populace in the North whoa re strafed by planes with devastating effect and are totally open to go and report is simply ignored.
Whoever writing to this comment, know this, we worship Buddha all because of his teachings and his moral stand points. Nothing to do with his race or colour of skin. So is the others.
When the late King was enthroned, he was just 19 years old. His youth ended abruptly, as he had to take over not only responsible for himself, but for the royal family as example for all Thais, and his subjects in Thailand. To master such a task required that he lived according to the Buddhist virtues. The new king is already 64. He did not face similar challenges as his father had to, and had therefore far less opportunities to prove his abilities to the public. As he became king due to the will of his father, the people of Thailand as represented by the regent, government and national assembly, all can be sure that now his virtues that might have been less obvious to the public, will become known, as without such virtues, he would never have become king and receive the respect and veneration of the Thai people.
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Confronting genocide in Myanmar
Rohingya genocide, Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, Russian invasion of Crimea, President Rousseff’s corruption, popular uprising against Assad…all things that never actually happened.
Growing insecurity in Muslim Mindanao
Good piece. There is a good polsci diss in the political economy of peace processes that seemingly never end. Like Mindanao. MI should be carrying their own water by being more effective in the political arena – on this score they need a nudge. As for Digong, his policy appears to be one of back flipping and pervasive uncertainty. Which probably suits Misuari down to a tee.
Lessons of the Arab Spring for Muslim Southeast Asia
South East Asia needs an ” Arab Spring” like it nees the plaque!
In fact SEA would do well to remove all things “Middle eastern” Nothing good has come out so far from the slow creep of Midddle eastern culture into SEA – notable Peninsula malaysia and some parts of Indonesia…
The futility of Prayuth’s war on truth
Friedrich Nietzsche — ‘What is the truth, but a lie agreed upon.’
Thailand’s long succession
I’d just like to correct one misconception about the “bomb” on the plane planned for Thaksin as reported by the Bangkok Post. At the time I contacted the Bangkok Post and told them that if there had been a bomb (they claimed it was a Eastern type plastic explosive) on the plane it would have done far more damage, not only blowing out the windows of the aircraft, but also the windows at the terminal it was parked at.
I pointed out both my military and civilian qualifications to the Editor at the time and the fact I had used Semtex (C4) on many occasions and that even one slab would have all but destroyed the aircraft.
After sending a reporter to the airport to check their sources and also the damage to the aircraft they belatedly printed a retraction on page 5 the following week that said, that in actual fact it was an air conditioning unit that has overheated which had caused the explosion.
The evidence, Semtex, that they had so vigorously promoted as the source of the explosion, was a quote from a military source over the phone who was, I surmise, just guessing.
The fable has lived on I see and now become fact.
The futility of Prayuth’s war on truth
A small correction. His wife has not been a secret for sometime now. She had a prominent place in the funeral motorcade that brought the late kings remains to the grand Palace, she is frequently photographed in close proximity to the new king and he has appointed her to the rank of Lieutenant General in the royal guards and given her his name, all of which has been covered by the Thai media. If you watch the footage of the new Kings assumption of the throne you will note that she was the first person he passed before prostrating himself at the shrine to his parents.
Confronting genocide in Myanmar
Eye-opener on genocide against my People:
Haikal Mansor
December 9, 2016
I am a Rohingya activist and professional, fluent in Burmese, Rohingya and English languages, living in exile. I made the 2-minutes video-clip with English language subtitles and posted it on YouTube with the purpose of exposing Aung San Suu Kyi’s culpability and complicity in the crime of genocide against my peoples, including babies, children, women, men and elderly people.
Amartya Sen, “The Term ‘slow genocide’ is appropriate because you deny [Rohingya] people health care, nutritional opportunities.”
http://www.rohingyablogger.com/2014/11/watch-webcast-live-on-slow-burning.html
George Soros, “In Aung Mingalar, I heard the echoes of my childhood. You see, in 1944, as a Jew in Budapest, I too was a Rohingya. Much like the Jewish ghettos set up by Nazis around Eastern Europe during World War II, Aung Mingalar has become the involuntary home to thousands of families who once had access to health care, education and employment. Now, they are forced to remain segregated in a state of abject deprivation. The parallels to the Nazi genocide are alarming.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAV5E_4Thh8
Desmond Tutu, “The government of Myanmar has sought to absolve itself of responsibility for the conflict between the Rakhine and the Rohingya, projecting it as sectarian or communal violence. I would be more inclined to heed the warnings of eminent scholars and researchers including Amartya Sen, the Nobel laureate in economics, who say this is a deliberately false narrative to camouflage the slow genocide being committed against the Rohingya people.”
http://www.tutufoundationusa.org/2015/05/29/desmond-tutu-the-slow-genocide-against-the-rohingya/
Tomas Ojea Quintana (UN Special Rapporteur on human rights), “The International State Initiative… arrives at a convincing conclusion: that a process of genocide against the Rohingya population is underway in Myanmar.”
http://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736(16)00646-2.pdf
Yale Law School: Clinic Study Finds Evidence of Genocide in Myanmar
https://www.law.yale.edu/yls-today/news/clinic-study-finds-evidence-genocide-myanmar
“Aung San Suu Kyi’s influence with the international community helped keep Myanmar’s military in check and strengthened her political position. Now she has lost some of her lustre, and her hold on the military is slipping. Her strategy of pragmatic compromise and ignoring the plight of the Rohingya no longer seems tenable,” Motokazu Matsui, 9 December 2016
http://asia.nikkei.com/Politics-Economy/Policy-Politics/Crackdown-on-Rohingya-mars-Suu-Kyi-s-human-rights-image?page=2
http://www.rohingyablogger.com/2016/12/aung-san-suu-kyi-look-yourself-in.html
Confronting genocide in Myanmar
Simon L
Where were you when the sanction by the west on Myanmar had been genocidal ?
Ko Soe Win Han is correct peddle your moral superiority going to the area to uplift the down trodden personally instead of empty rhetoric.
Chances are you will find the Yakhine are i the same boat as you might like to ignore .
The lingering genocidal effect of the west, acted exactly like yourself.
Confronting genocide in Myanmar
Your constant insistence on describing and characterizing the Rohingya as liars and as morally corrupt have been (and still is) used as basis for hatred and violence against other minority populations throughout the world, such as Gypsies and Jews. I do not have the confidence in my own ability to convince you out of your own racism.
Confronting genocide in Myanmar
Ethnic violence and genocide, like any complicated issue, is not a matter of black or white. But you have signalled quite clearly throughout these comments that you are not interested in getting into a nuanced or rational discussion. It is actually quite sad how you keep telling me that I live in a bubble. I am not the one denying that my country has been directly involved in acts of horrific violence and abuse against a minority population.
Even if Tatmadaw forces are not DIRECTLY engaging in murdering or abusing the Rohingya (IF, not EVEN THOUGH), their by and large refusal to intervene and provide protection against occurences of ethnic violence against the Rohingya and their tacit and not-so-tacit support of these actions can be taken as a signal of ongoing genocide. Please, for your own sake, refer to the case of the Armenian genocide, unless I may suspect you are also one of those who also deny that has occured.
Your stubborn refusal and hatred are what is wrong with this world – we as a humanity must learn from our worst mistakes and ensure that they do not happen again.
Confronting genocide in Myanmar
A video of American soldiers shooting journalists is EVIDENCE.
try this then ……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfgRs-JII78
The futility of Prayuth’s war on truth
Well said, HRK. The Thai government does not represent majority of the Thais. People are afraid of the new king and the unelected leader.
The futility of Prayuth’s war on truth
OMG! I’m so sad and mad that was happening to your family. But, that does not surprise me the way the Thai government has been behaving. I heard they have done similar or worse to many people who dare acting against them.
Confronting genocide in Myanmar
Do you understand what “evidence” means? It’s more than googling “Rohingya genocide.” Let me tell you. A video of American soldiers shooting journalists is EVIDENCE. An interview with locals in which people say “everybody died” is NONSENSE. That’s especially true when there is A HUGE BENEFIT FOR LYING in terms of aid and political gains. Guess your school doesn’t do a better job than instilling moral superiority.
Your bushing of HR narrative as ‘irrelevant’ shows you have no capacity to understand. Let me tell you why it is relevant. The same narrative, demonising one side and identiying the other as ‘victims’, is unfolding in Rakhine. Believe me, you’ll spend the rest of your life in your little bubble. Humans are more hardwired than they would ever admit. So, good bye. We’ll talk again when you can offer some evidence.
Confronting genocide in Myanmar
Show me a verifiable photo of soldiers shooting at your Rohingya and then we’ll talk about your evidence. It’s an age of phones and cameras. DON’T give me your pathetic nonsense interviews as evidence. That’s what happened WHEN YOU GIVE PEOPLE aid and asylum without verifying their made-up nonsense. Go inside any mosque, they are INSTRUCTED TO TELL GROSS LIES whenever they meet with any foreigner.
I tell you give me evidence. Back yourself up. Your pathetic nonsense “interviews” do NOT qualify as evidence. If HRW and Aljaeera interviews are all that you can offer, you’ll spend the rest of your life in snobbish moral superiority bubble.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2015/10/02/committee-report-rohingya-refugees-false-rape-claims.html
Jokowi’s calculated soft approach to Jakarta’s radicals
The latest to be detained in this round-up is Hatta Taliwang, a former PAN member of parliament who is aged only 62. Soon we may be reading of suspects being declared who can still run a hundred metres.
Given Jokowi’s reported belief that SBY and Ani backed the November and December demonstrations, will Tito Karnavian have them declared suspects as well? At 69, SBY easily meets the minimum age requirement.
If it is true, as Greg Fealy has just written, that Amien Rais has condemned Ahok as a ‘kafir Chinaman’ (or ‘chink’), at which court will he be put on trial and how long will his sentence for spreading racial and sectarian hatred be? Or would that have an unfortunate impact on PAN’s support for the Jokowi government?
This all looks like the old difference between the contrasting treatment of kakap besar and ikan teri in the field of corruption. Put the powerless on trial and leave the powerful untouched.
How many people could Sri Bintang or Rachmawati get to storm the parliamentary building? By contrast, how many times has the FPI blocked traffic in one part of Jakarta or another since it was set up twenty years ago.
As for retired major-general Kivlan Zein, has he taken part in raids on any sex parties lately? Well, the FPI did with police connivance in Kalibata a couple of weekends ago
I have no idea what this author means by a ‘closer internal security apparatus’. Closer to what? Will Indonesia’s George Smiley, or rather ‘Control’, alias Budi Gunawan, be contributing to that closer internal security apparatus?
Confronting genocide in Myanmar
Main fallacy of all those “Human Rights” industry largess enjoyers is that, the mostly recognised Burmese populace in the North whoa re strafed by planes with devastating effect and are totally open to go and report is simply ignored.
BBC under fire on Rohingyas
Whoever writing to this comment, know this, we worship Buddha all because of his teachings and his moral stand points. Nothing to do with his race or colour of skin. So is the others.
The futility of Prayuth’s war on truth
When the late King was enthroned, he was just 19 years old. His youth ended abruptly, as he had to take over not only responsible for himself, but for the royal family as example for all Thais, and his subjects in Thailand. To master such a task required that he lived according to the Buddhist virtues. The new king is already 64. He did not face similar challenges as his father had to, and had therefore far less opportunities to prove his abilities to the public. As he became king due to the will of his father, the people of Thailand as represented by the regent, government and national assembly, all can be sure that now his virtues that might have been less obvious to the public, will become known, as without such virtues, he would never have become king and receive the respect and veneration of the Thai people.
The futility of Prayuth’s war on truth
The Telegraph’s story on the king’s schooling in Britain was revealing of how the traits of a 9 year-old are carried throughout a life. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/like-board-millfield-school-king-thailand/ also bits of it at: https://thaipoliticalprisoners.wordpress.com/2016/12/09/king-as-boy/